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Broken steering cable

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 7:29 am
by Butchel
This old boat has been sorely neglected. The threaded stud on the rudder end of the lower helm steering cable snapped because the clevis (threaded yoke) was rust frozen to the rudder control lever and wouldn't articulate. The push-pull cable (Morse?) bears the number M0646 on the rotary spool end. The sliding tube at the rudder end has the number "20" on it. I have had no luck finding a replacement. Also, I had to chop the clevis to pieces to remove it and need to replace it also. I am thinking to attempt to splice weld a piece of threaded stud onto the end of the broken one and just replace the clevis (threaded yoke.) Any suggestions would be well received and greatly appreciated. Butch

Re: Broken steering cable

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:45 am
by honestcharlie56
time to go hydraulic......

Re: Broken steering cable

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 4:47 pm
by Butchel
Is it possible to go hydraulic on the lower steering station and stay mechanical on the upper steering station? Who makes the conversion kit?

Re: Broken steering cable

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 6:17 pm
by barkleydave
No... You must covert both. If I still have mine when the time comes I am going to HD for sure.



safe boating,
dave

Re: Broken steering cable

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:04 pm
by honestcharlie56
Hydraulic is the only way to go imho. Like everything else involved in boating, it costs money though!!!!

Re: Broken steering cable

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 10:17 pm
by Butchel
Really? Money? Who'd ever thought? Thanks for the great information.

Broken steering cable

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 1:50 am
by Busia
I had to do the same. I also replaced Steermaster with Teleflex. It was the fastest cheapest way to go. Had to make an adapter for the cable end but now parts are available (they use them on outboards) and I can replace the whole system for $200.But I only have one helm.

Re: Broken steering cable

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 7:48 am
by Butchel
Thanks Busia. At last a tiny ray of hope! What is Steermaster? Is my cable a Steermaster cable? I assumed the M0646 meant "Morse." Which Teleflex cable worked for you? In the online pictures, the Teleflex cable has a small eye on the rudder end. How do I get from that to the 1/2" diameter pin hole in the rudder lever? What part is available? Where can I get this stuff?
My father and brother are also IBEW. God's country? Texans make that same claim. God must have more than one country.

Re: Broken steering cable

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:30 am
by EWRice
My boat also has the Steermaster setup using outboard style cables. Inexpensive and works good. Not as good as hydraulic, but good enough to be safe.

Re: Broken steering cable

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 4:10 pm
by Busia
Butchel wrote:Thanks Busia. At last a tiny ray of hope! What is Steermaster? Is my cable a Steermaster cable? I assumed the M0646 meant "Morse." Which Teleflex cable worked for you? In the online pictures, the Teleflex cable has a small eye on the rudder end. How do I get from that to the 1/2" diameter pin hole in the rudder lever? What part is available? Where can I get this stuff?
My father and brother are also IBEW. God's country? Texans make that same claim. God must have more than one country.


Steermaster is what the factory used, and they are out of business. ( Glen-L sailboat company has a few parts, but they are expensive and you would be just patching up an old system) Don't know what brand you have now, might find a name on the gearbox. I measured from the wheel to the rudder and dealer here had one on the shelf. You can be a little long, no problem. you don't want to stretch trying to make one that is short fit. I replaced the cable and the gearbox (about $200) Put the old wheel on. Had to modify the mount, but nothing drastic. The Teleflex is set up for outboards. It has a flattened end with a bolt hole through it. I needed to attach a fork that goes to the rudder linkage. Made an adaptor from aluminum 1 inch round stock. (square would work too) Drilled 3/8 inch hole for a bolt to go through it and stick out the end. The fork threaded onto the bolt. Drilled 5/8 inch hole about half way down. Grind the hex head down on the bolt so it fits down this hole. Then the 5/8 hole will slide over the new cable end and you drill a hole sideways to put a bolt through the adaptor and the hole in the cable end. 907-617-7832 if you have questions.

We laugh at Texans up here. Wife lived in Texas for 20 years. Gets upset how we pronounce it. Here it is called Texass.

...proof this is Gods country..
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